Hey Crew, I’m trying to decide whether to get the 2011 13m Rise or 2011 12m Razor for my light wind kite for riding good down the line waves waist high to 15’ faces with side on winds. I’m a big guy- 6’4”  230 lbs. ride surfboards 5’11” to 6’ 4”. Winds here can be light at times,  in the 12-16 mph range. Don’t really care about boosting, just hitting the lip. I have the 2010 Rise 8m 10m 12m now and really like em. Just looking for a kite to get me on the water on the light days when the waves are really good. I hear the Razor is a faster turning kite, which appeals to me especially since I’m on bigger kites than the lighter riders. Any opinions? Remember I’m not a flyweight, I’d like to hear what OR riders think.
Mahalo,
    Timmer

Razor’s are faster and have more bottom end than the Rise.  The 10 Razor got me going where the 11m Rise didn’t.

Thanks sunrise. Low end is what I’m looking for. Need more info on the Razor’s wave riding capabilities. Razor has a little more bar pressure than the Rise? I think I’d like that, the Rise is a bit light for me although I like everything else about it.

Timmer - 03 October 2010 11:33 AM

Thanks sunrise. Low end is what I’m looking for. Need more info on the Razor’s wave riding capabilities. Razor has a little more bar pressure than the Rise? I think I’d like that, the Rise is a bit light for me although I like everything else about it.

The Razor has more low end, faster turning, more bar pressure, and much better relaunch. It is also much better unhooked than the Rise. It is also sits a little deeper in the window, so you don’t have to actively fly it when going down the line.  Get the Razor if that’s your gig.

Thanks Evan. Just read that the 2011 kites now have 2 pulleys? What’s the word on performance with 2 pulleys compared to my ‘10 Rises?

Timmer - 04 October 2010 01:48 PM

Thanks Evan. Just read that the 2011 kites now have 2 pulleys? What’s the word on performance with 2 pulleys compared to my ‘10 Rises?

The additional pulley on the 2011’s has no effect on performance as it ” locks out ” when the kite is in the air. It may as well not even be there. It functions (moves along its line) only when the rider ejects at the bar - in conjunction with the safety system on the bar, this additional pulley is the reason the 2011’s ” fully ” depower.

Sounds like a great idea to me. Thanks for the quick responses!