windjunky - 20 September 2010 01:28 PM

As long as the kite is not pink, I could care less what it looks like. Performance, performance, performance!

Yup, yep and yer right! It’s how they fly that matters.
The OR graphics have looked about the same since 2007.
Not the best in the business (Wainman Boss and Smoke) but far from some of the horrible stuff (new North) out there.
Some of the companies change so much every year that they don’t even look like the same company, year to year.
Ocean Rodeo (like Slingshot), at least, keeps an identity consistently.
So, now we can go to the Kite Forum thread and look at all the pics of the best and the worst kite graphics!

Loving all this new info - definitely gonna add the Razor to the quiver this year, but keeping the rise (8,12) just in case the gusts are too terrible.  I still haven’t decided on sizes but probably 6, 8, 10 (maybe just 6, 10? depends if my wife finds out about the plans…) and will be my go to for kite trips and the occasional steady wind day here on the prairies (but will try it in gnarly gusts and let you know how I fare!)  I haven’t decided on bar type either.  Does the mini-5th depower to both front lines via the attachment point just above the bar or is there a 5th going to the kite?  How much pull is there when the kite is released on it?  I really love 4 line simplicity, and have rolled a kite in the surf enough to know I really don’t want a true 5th kite tangle.  The pictures helped - I’m OK with the shorter throw, just need clarification on the 5th bit.

Thanks a lot!
Ryan

I’m loving the way the new Rise graphics look in the air. Was there any inspiration going on from these guys?

Woody71 - 17 September 2010 02:51 PM

windjunky - 17 September 2010 12:58 PM

Wow, the gear looks awesome! Can you buy the 2011 freestyle bar chicken loop assembly for retro fitting older bars? It looks so nice. I’ve never needed more then 6-8” of depower on any rise so the below the bar depower is unnecessary.

Yeah I’d like that flag system as well on my 2010’s :0)

bump!

Hey Kirk, what flag system are you talking about? I am looking for one. Meaning a way to be able to quickly completely depower the kite on 1 line.

I was caught into a 55 knots gust early this year, and released before depowering. I could not reach the release ring anymore, so I ended it losing my kite after my leash snapped.
Thanks,
Bruno

brunoperez - 26 September 2010 08:14 AM

Hey Kirk, what flag system are you talking about? I am looking for one. Meaning a way to be able to quickly completely depower the kite on 1 line.

I was caught into a 55 knots gust early this year, and released before depowering. I could not reach the release ring anymore, so I ended it losing my kite after my leash snapped.
Thanks,
Bruno

Hi Bruno,
I have a mini fifth line system on my Core GT kite. Mini fifth lines usually use a front line that is single near the bar and then splits to a standard front line/bridle further up. Such a system has a safety line that goes through the bar and up the front line about 20 feet, right around where the front line splits to two lines. When you activate the safety release, your leash pulls the safety line through the bar, pulling on the front bridle. The kite then falls from the sky and lands on the water leading edge facing you and lies flat.

I have tried my Core bar also on a 2007 Waroo and it also fully depowers. I have had my Waroo on the mini fifth line when a squall hit. In that case, the kite depowered completely and hovered above the water with little pull.

kind regards
Kirk

Was there any inspiration going on from these guys?

I had a similar thought.  I was thinking the new rise wingtips looked like bird wings.

Thanks Kirk, did you buy it or made it yourself?

brunoperez - 27 September 2010 07:01 AM

Thanks Kirk, did you buy it or made it yourself?

It is a standard stock Core ESP bar.
http://www.corekiteboarding.com

Have a look. I am still experimenting with line lengths to get it to fly reliably with the Rise. My plan actually was to buy a Razor bar for the Rise and leave the Core bar dedicated to my Core GT kite.

regards
Kirk

Actually i just found that OR is coming up with a new bar that will include a complete kill depower in 2011. Check this
http://www.kiteforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2359867&sid=be441b532dc41df53ca8d84e84662651&p=669473#p669473
excerpt:
For 2011 all Ocean Rodeo kites will offer complete depower when ejected to the safety system and will not require, or lead to, total releases and situations described above. All existing customers riding 2009 or 2010 Rise kites will have the option to upgrade their kite and their bar and line systems from those years to easily accommodate this change in design. Similarly, customers buying 2011 kites who wish to use bars from earlier years will easily be able to upgrade their existing bar set-up.
John Zimmerman, OR

that is great news!

A drawing or picture of the new safety mod. would sure be appreciated ... I’m intrigued ... Thanks