2010 RISE quiver -  thinking 14m /10m/6m -  to replace 2008:  12m/8m
Posted: 16 August 2010 08:11 PM   [ Ignore ]
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Hi,
Im am replacing my 2008 quiver of 12m and 8m RISE and i am considering to get 14m/10m/6m RISE

i have been happy with the spread on the 2008 from 12m to 8m (but now need a smaller kite for windy wave days)

im mostly riding waveboards,but just got at raceboard - hence would like a 14 aswell.

is anyone using 14m/10m/6m?  - is the spread workable -  all comments/suggestions appreciated

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Posted: 16 August 2010 11:58 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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how much do you weigh?

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Posted: 17 August 2010 07:19 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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hi,
sorry im 83 kilo -  183 pound

riding flw

6,2 wave board (50 pct of time)
ocean rodeo mako wide 2008 (30 pct of time)
big raceboard (20 pct of time)

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Posted: 17 August 2010 07:38 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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14 sounds too large for you, I’m on the 13m and that saves the light wind 12kn days (@97kg, Mako King, less wind I consider no fun). If you’re using the big boards and raceboard for low end, you can have all the fun with 12/9/6 or 7. The 2010 has noticably more range in both low and top end than the 2008 due to the 6 strut layout. I find the 2010 13m to have more juice than the 2008 14m and it flies really easy and precise so if you insist on kiting really low winds you could try the 13 or 14… Our awardwinning Craig should be able to tell you more on this, he rides raceboards and has the hoody!

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Posted: 17 August 2010 01:45 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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If I weighed that much (I’m 210lbs), I would probably go 13-9-6…
but seriously-you can’t go wrong with what you are visualizing too-
the 14-10-6 quiver would be super sweet!

El Rudo dude, I don’t remember winning any awards lately…what am I missing?

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Posted: 17 August 2010 03:42 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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i weigh 175 and have a 14/10/8 quiver.  my rises are ‘09s, so you can adjust a little down for the added range people have noted on the ‘10 kites (i haven’t flown them).  It doesn’t make sense to have a 6m where i live, i’d probably only use it once or twice per year and no 7m was offered in ‘09 so i went with the 8m as my small kite.  I think the spread from a 6m to a 10m might be too wide.  i’d probably look at what your preference is for the middle kite, which for most people is the money kite.  at your weight and boards you listed, thats probably a 9m or a 10m.  if it’s a 9m, go 13/9/6.  if it’s a 10m, go 14-or-13/10/7.  I actually really like my 14m for huge floaty jumps at the high end and lets me have fun on a big board at about 13mph (i can go in 10-11mph, but not much fun).  if the bottom end of the 2010 13m is a little better than the 2009, you’d probably be fine with that for any conditions that would be any fun.

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Posted: 17 August 2010 04:20 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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Go 13-10-7

I weigh the same as you and 7-9-11 is all I need is a huge range of N Cal conditions.  I’ll probably add a 13m next year, but just for racing. 

You’ll be way happier with a 3m spread. I know you’re making the 8-12 work, but you’ll be in the sweet spot way more if you go smaller.  The 7m feels much smaller than the 8m, and at your size you’ll need crazy wind to overpower the 7m. 

The 13 has 99% of the 14m’s power and the 10m is just a damn awesome size in the Rise, maybe the best.

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Posted: 17 August 2010 09:25 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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thanks very much all your inputs, highly appreciated - now a comment to all of you

El rudo: 
Thanks - Ok i think I have now skipped the idea of the 14 and will go 13 instead

Craig myers: 
Thanks - 13/9/6 might be better, but is the 10 a better kite as Andrew Galbraits indicates? 

Miltsface:
thanks, have used my 2008 12m - 80 pct of the time (and been very happy with the size)  so wondering whether that is my ´money kite’ size? (most people here in Copenhagen, Denmark is using a size 12 - lots of days with 15-22 mph – but yes many people probably only have 1 kite)  anyway I like to think, that instead of always using the 2008 - 12m, I could pick and use the 2010 - 13m or the 10/9 m instead depending on whether wind is picking up or slowing down. 

Andrew:
thanks, 13/10/7 sounds good aswell,  but I heard that 2010 kites feels 1m larger than the 2008?  That means that 2010 - 7m would be the same size as my 2008 - 8m, which have been a little bit too big for me a couple of days with really good waves. So if this size comparison is correct,  then im afraid I need a 6 as smallest kite in 2010 model. 
You are advertising very well for the 10m, but is it correct that you just have the 11m and the 9m??  regrets, or?

thanks again for taking time to guide me - this is fantastic.

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Posted: 17 August 2010 09:38 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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The 2010 do have a bit more low end than 08, but it’s actually the high end that I think is much better.  I have had rises since 07 and I will say that the 2010 7m has better high end than the 08 8m without a doubt. 

Unless you ride a huge strapless surfboard, or kite somewhere where the wind is regularly in the mid 30’s I doubt you will need a 6m. 

I don’t have the 10m anymore mainly because I the overall spread of odd sizes works best for me.  I only like 2m gap between kites.  That said the 9m is also amazing, not nervous like a small kite, but fast, powerful and loops great.  Still, for my weight the 10m had the best range and such good feel.

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Posted: 17 August 2010 09:47 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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true, this year 10m is magic again, I was on the 7m last Sunday happily powered but for the nasty lulls I switched to the 10m, 12 to 30+ knots and not a moment powered beyond control on that 10. Jumps so smooth and long…
So I think if you’re 12% lighter than me this would apply for the 9m in your case, hence the advise. I own the 13/10/7 and I couldn’t be happier!

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Posted: 18 August 2010 06:17 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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Andrew ,
thanks I will be riding a 6,2 feet strapless f.one bamboo waveboard in the future (but right now I still have the front footstrop on)
And we are getting days with good waves blowing upper 20ies to mid 30ies (knots),  but if the 2010 - 7m depowers “below”  the 8m then that might be sufficient.
what is the windrange for the 2010 – 7meter, anyway if the 7m from 2008 pulls as much as 8m from 2008 then I need a 6m, (cause my 2008 – 8m is a tick too big as my smallest kite)

El rudo
Thanks, yes I think it’s a choice between 13/10/7 or 13/9/6   (but i guess it depends on what i need as smallest kite)

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Posted: 18 August 2010 06:48 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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Jacobb, where is that, and howz real estate up there? Wow…

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Posted: 18 August 2010 10:02 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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Jacobb, they are saying the 2010 7m has more low end pull than the 2008 8m because the kite flies faster (smaller leading edge than 2008 models) and has a better lift coefficient (middle of kite clear due to 6 strut design), and probably some other aerodynamic improvements I don’t know about.

But, at the end of the day it is a 7m kite and when you let the bar out it is going to behave like a 7m kite, not an 8m kite. Aerodynamic improvements are not so significant when you are trying to persuade the kite to not generate any lift.

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Posted: 18 August 2010 02:07 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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I would say 12-9-6 is the way to go. I used to ride 2008 12m and 8m. Now i have 2010 6m, 9m and 2009 12m. I weigh 160lbs. 12-9-6 is a great combo for me. 60% riding on the 12m, 35% on the 9m and 5% on the 6m (dont really need a 6m, but I wanted one for those 2 days a year). I am on the 9m when its over 21mph.

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Posted: 18 August 2010 05:56 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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windjunky - 18 August 2010 02:07 PM

I would say 12-9-6 is the way to go. I used to ride 2008 12m and 8m. Now i have 2010 6m, 9m and 2009 12m. I weigh 160lbs. 12-9-6 is a great combo for me. 60% riding on the 12m, 35% on the 9m and 5% on the 6m (dont really need a 6m, but I wanted one for those 2 days a year). I am on the 9m when its over 21mph.

sounds pretty much like where I would be as well. I have 6 2010 (for those same 2 days lol) + 8, 10 + 12 2009, if I could get a 9m 2010 I think that would be perfect for me and out the 8 and 10!

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Posted: 18 August 2010 06:20 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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thanks all your input guys, - i have now decided to try 13/9/6   -  cause i am happy with the ‘large’ 12-8 spread on my 2008 kites and very seldom depower the 12m -  so i should be able to hold the 13m! thanks again

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