The suicide leash connection will be below the bar, SPINNING on a metal ring for you! This was a request from some of our unhooked pro guys. Here’s a picture of an early version, we’re currently changing this since there was an issue with the ring. I don’t know about shipping details and whether it made it to the Rise bar. Somehow it didn’t make it to the first photos…
It’s the metal ring between the gray head and the black body, close to the 2 trim line insertion points. Again, it will look slightly different!
The leashing you’re referring to is the single front line flagging option which we don’t recommend for everyday use. This has caused a lot of discussion on Kiteforum, Evan and I have explained everything about 20 times here.
So, there are 3 was of leashing available:
1: standard to the trim loop line
2: spinning ring on the chickenloop hub
3: single front line flagging
John and Ross made a super relaxed video this week showing some of the options:
For the 11m go for the 42-49 bar (small), I’m just back from a session on the 12m with it and it’s spot on.
Thanks El Rudo! I’d seen the video before, which was what had started to get me worried. I also calmed down a bit after rereading your first post.
That kiteforum link is an interesting read. I’ve had one occasion where I really wished I could flag the kite on one line as ejecting the quick release didn’t provide anywhere near enough depower. Having said that, I should have been on a smaller kite in the first place and in the 99.99% of other cases I’ve been completely happy with the existing OR system. I certainly wouldn’t trade it for an over the bar leash point.
Any differences at all in bar throw between the 2009 bar and the 2010 bar?
(I’m considering using a 2009 bar with 2010 kites).
On the 2010 bar the chicken loop release will function when unhooked. On my 2009 bar I’ve twice become accidentally unhooked (chicken loop twisting off the harness hook). In that situation, the 2009 release is jammed up against the bar, so its not readily release-able.
I’ve used this bar (pre-production, 42-49) on 8m, 10m, and 12m and even a 14m sessions a couple of times now and I’m happy with the grip and curved shape. It’s comfortable, easy on the hands, works well with and without gloves, and somehow it’s a nice shape to throw around. One handed feels better too.
These are all small differences - nothing sensational - but together it works really well. The CL - just does what it’s there for. The cleat is way more easy to operate, and the donkey dick is more reliable.
Like with any new bar the grip material needs some breaking in, I remember the previous bars having really grippy EVA that became softer on the hands after a couple of sessions, same here.
Sooooo, some months along now and I saw a recent post over on the 2010 Rise topic that suicide leash points still are not shipping with the 3.0 bars? Is this correct, and if so when will they be, if ever? And if never, will they at least be available as a kit from OR?
Edit: 2 weeks, not a peep, no one knows anything?? I really want to order new kites but am holding off until this issue is clarified.
Anyone riding suicide? Clipping the leash to the Chicken loop works but it gets in the way when hooking back in.
I’ve started clipping to the point where the loop splits to go through the tab that’s secured in the release cuff. Not sure if it’s advisable there but it’s out the way.