Here is a review of the 6m Rise from a BKB rider.
Bellingham gets nukin winds all the time, and this kite seems to be the cream of high wind kites.
[quote author=“Zoffen”]Disclaimer…...I am associated with a shop that does sell Ocean Rodeo gear, but as a moral i like to tell it like I see it. I am an intermediat/ working for advanced rider with about 1 years kiting experience, however in this year i am an addict and get to kite alot, almost every ridable day here in b-ham i try to get out. To start out, people have talked about the construction on these kites and i agree, they ar bomber. Last summer at dogfish i was riding toward the shore when i saw a 10m rise launch and backstall (the 07 rise had a big backstalling problem, I personally did not like this kite at all, HOWEVER, the 08 bridle totally transformed this kite, the main difference, other than the vents was the bridle change) it then continued to do multiple loops SMASHING into the ground multiple times. For sure i thought this kite was toast, like mega toast. To my surprise and nearly everyone on the beach, all that happened was a 6 inch tear in the canopy and a few pinholes….i, among many others were amazed that this kite was not, as my buddies like to say DUN 4. Anyways, they’re built bomber. We got these kites here at the shop in the fall and being the one that unpacks each shipment, i naturally was one of the first ones on this kite. Andy and i did a back to back 8m test at westbeach, 8m thruster vs. 8m rise. I of course took the 8m thruster and immediatly meshed with it. I was reluctant to switch with andy but did and immediatly did not like the kite. It had good turning speed, depower, grunt, but the one thing it was lacking was a more moderate bar pressure/ feeling. A month later i tried the 8m again and still didn’t like it, once again, bar pressure, i couldn’t tell where the kite was. My feelings remained mixed on it as a kite for me. However, after teaching on them for a few months these kites rock. For a beginner this is THE kite. I’ve taught a few lessons with the 6, and i couldn’t have done it without these kites. So stable and predictible, relaunch is just as good as any other sle these days, good grunt, good depower. Still for a more advanced rider i had mixed feelings. Then all of a sudden i had a breakthrough. On monday, I was out teaching on a 6m again, when it picked up to 25+, which is not the greatest learning conditions so i scratched the lesson ( oh well :D) and went out for a session. This is when things started coming together and my feelings on the kites took a giant 180. 150lb rider(on a good day), 127 skywalker pro, 24m lines, 6m rise, this was my setup of choice for the day and boy oh boy was it right on the money. By the time i got out it was blowing 25+ gusting to mid 30’s or more at times. LIT LIT LIT LIT. I finally figured out how to jump this machine and all i can say is that this kite goes HUGE. edge, send, sheet, and you are in the stratosphere….I don’t like to claim but i had a bunch of boosts that were 30+ feet and few that were a few feet more. When you start getting this big its all about timing and knowing where your kite is. Send it hard and bring a giant downloop, and if your timing is right, you land budda soft going the other direction. There were a few times, 25 ft. in the air i felt like i might drop like a rock but instead the kite just drifted nicely and even the botched jumps put me down softly. I had mixed feelings about the low bar pressure but after getting used to it you can feel the feedback and where the kite was in the air. There were some gusts where even though you have your 100% depower BS, you still have 6m of fabric connected to you in 35+ knots, however, no jellyfishing, no weird quirks, nothing. Predictable, stable, and most of all i felt SAFE on this kite in nuclear up and down conditions. Being a year round kiter in bellingham, we have alot of storms rolling through in the winter with many super gusty 30+ winds. With other kites i would go out and maybe send it a little bit but never really felt comfortable to push my limits. With the rise i was looping the kite with relativly little fear. Overall if anyone is looking for a safe predictable kite for conditions from steady light summer winds to nuclear winter gusty storms, I feel for 80% of the riders out there this kite is what your looking for. I know that i will be getting a 6m rise for my storm kite. Its an amazing feeling when you and your kite become one and send you to the moon. Give me a few more sessions on this bad dog and i might, just might, if i wish and hope and try my hardest, fly as high as the gator, but who knows, i might die in the process…. :twisted: :twisted: If anyone wants to try a rise give craig a call, he’ll have nothing but good things to say about the kite, and if in the HAM area give me a call (360-298-1363) to try these bad dogs out. Disclaimer again, i work for a shop, but yet again i call it like i see it, and i see a nice crispy new 6m rise in my future.
Here is Daniel Stoners account of the incident that led to him getting worked by the 6m Rise. This was his 1st experience with an OR kite.
He had just came in from flying his Rhino5 10m, a bit too powered.
[quote author=“DanielStoner”]Thanks to Craig, I got a chance to demo the 6m Rise today at RB. Definitely a fast, fun kite. Three things I observed:
First, minimal bar pressure and small, fast kites do not mix well. I could never tell where the kite was from bar-pressure feedback. I learned the hard way when I tried a very casual downloop transition and took my eyes off the kite for a split-second. I apparently pulled too hard and didn’t notice in time and proceeded to get yarded. I untwisted my lines and relaunched very quickly (Craig, you are right: that thing practically relaunches itself!), but the minimal bar pressure vs. reaction time on a small kite makes it tougher to judge the steering…(IMO).
Second, that bar setup has a ridiculous (too much, IMO) amount of throw…I don’t fly 4-line kites, so maybe this is not just unique to OR. It’s got a stopper ball, but I didn’t check it before I relaunched on the beach (it was all the way out; which has got to be three feet or more from the chicken loop. I’ve got long arms and I couldn’t reach it hooked in.) I realized I didn’t pull it in when I let go of the bar to grab my board that had slipped out of my left hand. Instead of stopping, the bar travelled all the way up the line (considerably out of my reach). The kite fell out and crashed along the rocks / lumber. Which brings me to point Three:
This sucker is bomber proof. I was pretty sure I had just bought that kite when I saw it crash. Craig reported it was just fine.
A smaller bar (40cm) would certainly help slow it down, and perhaps give the rider a little more feedback. If so, it would be an even more wicked-fun kite to ride.
Thanks again, Craig, for letting me take it for a spin—or should I say multiple loops!